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Topic Title: Is DMPE 2 working well in Windows 10?
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Created On: 04/06/2016 03:16 PM
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 Is DMPE 2 working well in Windows 10?   - mosagra - 04/06/2016 03:16 PM  
 Is DMPE 2 working well in Windows 10?   - Lunis Orcutt - 04/06/2016 10:52 PM  
 Is DMPE 2 working well in Windows 10?   - DHW - 05/22/2016 06:40 AM  
 Is DMPE 2 working well in Windows 10?   - Lunis Orcutt - 05/22/2016 02:04 PM  
 Is DMPE 2 working well in Windows 10?   - ldmorton - 06/26/2016 08:30 AM  
 Is DMPE 2 working well in Windows 10?   - Lunis Orcutt - 06/26/2016 04:01 PM  
 Is DMPE 2 working well in Windows 10?   - Lunis Orcutt - 06/30/2016 08:42 PM  
 Is DMPE 2 working well in Windows 10?   - hardware_failure - 05/26/2016 12:43 PM  
 Is DMPE 2 working well in Windows 10?   - me2u - 06/02/2016 07:48 AM  
 Is DMPE 2 working well in Windows 10?   - pdc0625 - 06/16/2016 08:14 PM  
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I saw earlier posts that pointed out problems.

Is DMPE 3 coming out any day?

 

 04/06/2016 10:52 PM
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Nuance's official word is that they will never issue a US/Canadian DMPE 3 release because they want physicians to upgrade to the cloud version of Dragon Medical which requires a 36 month agreement and costs $135 per month. Other drawbacks include no local Dragon user profile, no local Dragon installation, a full time Internet connection to the Nuance server, no Advanced-Scripting, no Macro Recorder capability and limited vocabulary choices. While we can see some advantages (full EMR text control and fast dictation), in our opinion, Nuance should have additionally continued the box releases which would give physicians 2 choices. This is 1 of the reasons we are planning on creating KnowBrainer Universal which will include its own speech engine that will allow it to work with any other Windows speech recognition application such as Dragon, WSR Cortana and M*Modal. Our completely unqualified opinion, which is based on absolutely no facts, is that Nuance will reconsider this decision and release DMPE 4 in the 2nd quarter of 2017.



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Thanks Lunis but to complete the question: what about Win10? Looks like it's getting to be time to upgrade....

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Our inside Nuance contact has informed us that Nuance plans on releasing a complementary DMPE 2.x upgrade to existing DMPE 2 users with Windows 10 support and possibly Office 2016 support. Note that this decision is not written in stone and may never happened. Assuming it does happen, we won't likely be given advance notice. Nuance claims that they have no plans for a DMPE 3 release because they want everyone to upgrade to Dragon Medical One (pure cloud computing) which has apparently run into some problems and hasn't released it yet. On a personal level, we believe Dragon Medical One may experience some marketing difficulties because of the price, requiring a three-year contract and loss of command functionality. Everyone seems to agree that Nuance should've released DMPE 3 and Dragon Medical One (when it is ready) and let end-users choose between the 2 offerings. We suspect that Nuance will eventually give in to overwhelming peer pressure.

PS: At the moment, we see no compelling reason to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10 but if Windows is attempting to force you to upgrade, Microsoft will eventually win unless you prevent it with a free utility like GWX Control Panel



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I briefly received a message service pack 2.3 was available for DMPE 2, but didn't download and now doesn't show up in updates.

 

Did anyone else receive this?



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Try clicking Check for Updates under the DragonBar Help menu. When you are offered the option to run or save Ver. 2.3, choose SAVE. Never choose RUN which is dangerous. After you have saved the patch, reboot your computer, with as few applications launching as possible, before attempting to install the patch.



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Click DMPE 2.3 for additional information and complimentary download



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I installed DMPE 2 on windows 10 and had all sorts of problems with our EMR (GE Centricity) Lock ups, DMPE crashing, the EMR crashing, you name it.

Not recommended.
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I've also gone from DMPE2 running beautifully on Windows 7 Pro to Windows 10 Home (on a separate new build). Hopeless, freezes and also freezes Word 2007 with the add-ins. I've done reinstalls and finally went back to Windows 7 but now have the same problem in Win 7. I think it is a software issue with AppHangB1 & agent.exe updates that locks up the program causing interminable delays.
That said, there were fleeting moments when DMPE2 was fine in Word under Windows 10. Just seized up after re-boots.
 06/16/2016 08:14 PM
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I have been using DMPE2 on an unfriendly EMR (eSPHINX which you can pray that you never hear about again) on a dual boot machine alternating between Windows 7 Pro and Windows 10 since September. I have to admit that on that *#% of an EMR there is not much difference -- equal opportunity frustration.

I have not had issues with the EMR freezing any more than on Windows 7, it does that often enough  on both platforms. Office 2010 works well on both without freezing -- I guess I am lucky.

Recently I got DNS 13 Pro fully functional on Windows 10 and I am definitely impressed with how well it works on the same EMR. I had had it working on a different computer before getting DME2 about 2 years ago and was unhappy with DNS 13's performance then. When I reinstalled this time, (yesterday), I copied the text in the ProgramData\Nuance\DragonNS13\Data\Training\Enx data37.bin, data38.bin and data39.bin into one file on the desktop then I had the program "learn from specific documents" point at that combined file. The program seemed to come alive and learned a number of new words and also some of the odd ways physicians phrase things. Almost but not quite all of my macros work as they did in DME2, exceptions being some script files, for reasons I haven't yet figured out. It is not perfect and after 20 hours of use, not up to where DME2 is after two years but I have a lot of hope.

But, hey, sign me up for KnowBrainer Universal. After having bought DNS version 2 through 14 missing only DNS 5, I am ready to try something else.



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