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Topic Title: Untraining/removing certain pronunciations
Topic Summary: git=git!not, the=thee!thu, again=agane!agin...
Created On: 11/19/2020 04:27 PM
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 Untraining/removing certain pronunciations   - Ag - 11/19/2020 04:27 PM  
 Untraining/removing certain pronunciations   - Lunis Orcutt - 11/19/2020 06:22 PM  
 Untraining/removing certain pronunciations   - Mav - 11/20/2020 02:39 AM  
 Untraining/removing certain pronunciations   - R. Wilke - 11/21/2020 04:54 AM  
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 11/19/2020 04:27 PM
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Q: Is there any way to tell Dragon that I do not pronounce words a particular way?

 

I am Canadian,  English first generation,  but have lived in several places in  USA. My accent may be a mix.

I am using the American English vocabulary, to get American spellings.  but my pronunciation is in many ways Canadian.  

I am not sure the examples below are essentially Canadian, but they are nevertheless my pronunciation.

 

I always say the word "the"  with a long E, like "thee", not "thuh", as  many Americans do.  this is the most common misrecognition I  get the Dragon.

I always say the word "been" with a long E, like "bean", not "bin" as  many Americans do.

I always say "again" with a long A, "agane". Not "agin",  the way Americans do.

I always say "get" with a short E sound, as in the American southern "et" for "eat".    I have not lived in the South, so I have no reason to believe I have any component of American southern pronunciation.   Unfortunately, as a programmer I use the version control "git", which Dragon often insist on transcribing as "get".   I can  assure you that I do not pronounce "get"  the way Southerners do as "git".  

 

Is there any way to tell Dragon that I never use certain pronunciations?

 

 

 

 

 



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 11/19/2020 06:22 PM
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I just tested and have no trouble getting Dragon to recognize these words with either pronunciation but I was a radio DJ in a past life and this might have some effect.

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 11/20/2020 02:39 AM
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I don't think there's a way to remove single pronunciations.

 

When a word is initially being added to a vocabulary, it gets at least one default pronunciation (depending on whether spoken audio is available or not, this pronunciation can be generated by the pronunciation guesser, in which case several slightly different pronunciations can be created).

By training this word, additional pronunciations can be added, but since there's no way to access a single pronunciation anymore, you can't even say for sure if a given word does have a specific pronunciation.

 

You could delete the whole word including all pronunciations and then try recreating it with just your own pronunciation, but Dragon won't let you delete commonly used words such as "the" or "been".

Furthermore, by "deleting" a word you're not actually removing it from the vocabulary, you're just setting a flag saying that this word should not be considered for recognition.

If you then try re-adding the word with your own pronunciation chances are that Dragon simply removes the "Deleted"-flag or pulls the word from its backup dictionary and you end up with all the pronunciations you tried to remove.

 

Altogether I think it'll be better if you try to increase the probability of your pronunciations by training those words that are misrecognized frequently and just hope for the best...

 

hth,

mav

 11/21/2020 04:54 AM
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I am using the American English vocabulary, to get American spellings.  but my pronunciation is in many ways Canadian.

 

When setting up the profile, did you try mixing it with British accented English as an additional option?



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